Comments on: 去不了前線　救不了災民 http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/%e5%8e%bb%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e5%89%8d%e7%b7%9a%e3%80%80%e6%95%91%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e7%81%bd%e6%b0%91/ 與你細說有血有肉人的故事 Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:20:30 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: another doctor http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/%e5%8e%bb%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e5%89%8d%e7%b7%9a%e3%80%80%e6%95%91%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e7%81%bd%e6%b0%91/#comment-6136 another doctor Thu, 22 May 2008 05:12:49 +0000 http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/?p=923#comment-6136 One more note, Overseas med student: have a look at ifeng.com the rescue effort of Chan Kin or alike, is recorded by video, is the best under that circumstances. They had to move the patient with stretchers over the hills for 3-4 hours in total darkness.... In BBC site, Reynolds china, he described another scene , where a rescue team was digging, another rescue team would standby as , people have make the way open for the strecther to run to the ambulance. Have a look. One more note, Overseas med student:
have a look at ifeng.com the rescue effort of Chan Kin or alike, is recorded by video, is the best under that circumstances. They had to move the patient with stretchers over the hills for 3-4 hours in total darkness….
In BBC site, Reynolds china, he described another scene , where a rescue team was digging, another rescue team would standby as , people have make the way open for the strecther to run to the ambulance. Have a look.

]]> By: another doctor http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/%e5%8e%bb%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e5%89%8d%e7%b7%9a%e3%80%80%e6%95%91%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e7%81%bd%e6%b0%91/#comment-6135 another doctor Thu, 22 May 2008 05:04:35 +0000 http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/?p=923#comment-6135 Overseas med student, I was like you,young and impressd by the wonders of modern medicine, think that I was so good that the only way out is way up, and helped out in many breakthrough operations before, ( how many heart transplant have you seen? ) we have patient who were congressman, ambassaders, wealthy men.... I look back, the same question, what is medicine, in essence , what is your medicine?? Learn some good skills and have strong knowledge, get your license. The big professors in Harvard, would only look after the one who can afford him at MGH. Was he respected in Harlam? Overseas med student,
I was like you,young and impressd by the wonders of modern medicine, think that I was so good that the only way out is way up, and helped out in many breakthrough operations before, ( how many heart transplant have you seen? )
we have patient who were congressman, ambassaders, wealthy men….

I look back, the same question, what is medicine, in essence , what is your medicine??
Learn some good skills and have strong knowledge, get your license.
The big professors in Harvard, would only look after the one who can afford him at MGH.
Was he respected in Harlam?

]]> By: Oversea med Student http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/%e5%8e%bb%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e5%89%8d%e7%b7%9a%e3%80%80%e6%95%91%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e7%81%bd%e6%b0%91/#comment-6132 Oversea med Student Wed, 21 May 2008 20:11:50 +0000 http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/?p=923#comment-6132 I got a reply from msi today that said they need volunteers for long term follow up, and if I can't wait I can contact other organizations. I also left my contact numbers to Red Cross few days ago, but no one call me back... I saw it on the news there are still great needs for doctors and medical professionals. It was especially heartbreaking when I saw the guy that was buried under the rubbles for 73 hours and died once he was rescued... I just don't know why there's no ambulance and doctors stand by to save him?! I don't know what I am waiting for when people are needing help. Dr. Fat: I graduated from the US with a master degree in medical science (Doctors in the US are doctoral degrees). But HK system isn't very compatible with the American system...so I can practice in the US but not in HK...Sigh... Another doctor: thanks for your advice~~ I do like the high tech and their western acheivement ...heartily~ hehee~ so I guess I am still a student. But I am so spoiled that I would wonder what should I do without all the extensive equipments. You are right, touching people's soul is very important in healing, and sometimes modern medicine draw us closer to the disease, but away from the person. I got a reply from msi today that said they need volunteers for long term follow up, and if I can’t wait I can contact other organizations. I also left my contact numbers to Red Cross few days ago, but no one call me back…
I saw it on the news there are still great needs for doctors and medical professionals. It was especially heartbreaking when I saw the guy that was buried under the rubbles for 73 hours and died once he was rescued… I just don’t know why there’s no ambulance and doctors stand by to save him?! I don’t know what I am waiting for when people are needing help.

Dr. Fat: I graduated from the US with a master degree in medical science (Doctors in the US are doctoral degrees). But HK system isn’t very compatible with the American system…so I can practice in the US but not in HK…Sigh…

Another doctor: thanks for your advice~~ I do like the high tech and their western acheivement …heartily~ hehee~ so I guess I am still a student. But I am so spoiled that I would wonder what should I do without all the extensive equipments. You are right, touching people’s soul is very important in healing, and sometimes modern medicine draw us closer to the disease, but away from the person.

]]> By: another doctor http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/%e5%8e%bb%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e5%89%8d%e7%b7%9a%e3%80%80%e6%95%91%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e7%81%bd%e6%b0%91/#comment-6118 another doctor Tue, 20 May 2008 05:42:56 +0000 http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/?p=923#comment-6118 Doctor fat, if you did go to Sichuen, take care . I admire volunteers, it is dangerous. Several good doctors did what they preached, Au Yiu Kai, Joyce Tang Wong Wai all spent months in Africa. Some honour to know them. We can all contribute in our own way. Overseas med student: I graduated overseas as well, white man professors mostly are proud of western acheivement, and we easily, may be heartily, has to agree with them. It had to be, when we were students , at that high tech environment. As I grow, I learn , to build a good system is not easy, criticise is easy, work on something constructively is not easy, quit is easy, persevere is not easy.... Doctor fat, if you did go to Sichuen, take care .
I admire volunteers, it is dangerous. Several good doctors did what they preached, Au Yiu Kai, Joyce Tang Wong Wai all spent months in Africa. Some honour to know them.
We can all contribute in our own way.
Overseas med student: I graduated overseas as well, white man professors mostly are proud of western acheivement, and we easily, may be heartily, has to agree with them. It had to be, when we were students , at that high tech environment.
As I grow, I learn , to build a good system is not easy, criticise is easy, work on something constructively is not easy, quit is easy, persevere is not easy….

]]> By: 肥醫生 http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/%e5%8e%bb%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e5%89%8d%e7%b7%9a%e3%80%80%e6%95%91%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e7%81%bd%e6%b0%91/#comment-6109 肥醫生 Mon, 19 May 2008 14:05:33 +0000 http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/?p=923#comment-6109 ANOTHER DOCTOR: PASSION都要有環境CULTURE才行，我老細講到明「醫生」，就注定要放棄PERSONAL LIFE OVERSEA MED STUDENT: 我也有將資料SEND給MSI，第一隊已經於星期日出發前往棉陽，第二隊會在十至十四日後出發，你可以與他們保持聯絡。你在那兒畢業呢？我贊同another doctor，醫道之本在於愛與誠，希望你不要那麼學我冷卻下來。 julie:拍掌認同 U: 不要如此，你可以作的其實比我們更加多。「專長」此時此刻，倒成了我們的限制。 ANOTHER DOCTOR: PASSION都要有環境CULTURE才行，我老細講到明「醫生」，就注定要放棄PERSONAL LIFE

OVERSEA MED STUDENT: 我也有將資料SEND給MSI，第一隊已經於星期日出發前往棉陽，第二隊會在十至十四日後出發，你可以與他們保持聯絡。你在那兒畢業呢？我贊同another doctor，醫道之本在於愛與誠，希望你不要那麼學我冷卻下來。

julie:拍掌認同

U: 不要如此，你可以作的其實比我們更加多。「專長」此時此刻，倒成了我們的限制。

]]> By: U http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/%e5%8e%bb%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e5%89%8d%e7%b7%9a%e3%80%80%e6%95%91%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e7%81%bd%e6%b0%91/#comment-6107 U Mon, 19 May 2008 13:22:28 +0000 http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/?p=923#comment-6107 身為一普通星斗市民，毫無專長，能做到的只是捐出不多的金錢。想不到即使有救人救災的專業資格，亦是有心無力。無奈﹗ 身為一普通星斗市民，毫無專長，能做到的只是捐出不多的金錢。想不到即使有救人救災的專業資格，亦是有心無力。無奈﹗

]]> By: julie http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/%e5%8e%bb%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e5%89%8d%e7%b7%9a%e3%80%80%e6%95%91%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e7%81%bd%e6%b0%91/#comment-6103 julie Mon, 19 May 2008 06:56:34 +0000 http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/?p=923#comment-6103 It makes me so angry that those senior staff of your descriptions (e.g. consultant level) are fighting their arse off to go to Sichuan, but not to offer their help but only to put a halo above their pathetic tiny little head, their priority certainly isn't on helping out, they just want the credits for themselves! Many of them know damn well that they are old and simply can't handle all that rushing around and physical work.... pisses me right off these so-called senior doctors...... It makes me so angry that those senior staff of your descriptions (e.g. consultant level) are fighting their arse off to go to Sichuan, but not to offer their help but only to put a halo above their pathetic tiny little head, their priority certainly isn’t on helping out, they just want the credits for themselves! Many of them know damn well that they are old and simply can’t handle all that rushing around and physical work…. pisses me right off these so-called senior doctors……

]]> By: another doctor http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/%e5%8e%bb%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e5%89%8d%e7%b7%9a%e3%80%80%e6%95%91%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e7%81%bd%e6%b0%91/#comment-6100 another doctor Mon, 19 May 2008 02:35:47 +0000 http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/?p=923#comment-6100 good on you, overseas med student. What is medicine? what does US medical system tell us/you? Moore's film says most of bthe drawbacks. you don't need high tech , you need passion and sincerity, we look ar premeir Wen,if we can't do anything else, learn from his eye contact, his body langauge and his speeches. I taught psychology at U, he gave us an excellent demo, a very powerful medicine by itself. good on you, overseas med student.
What is medicine? what does US medical system tell us/you? Moore’s film says most of bthe drawbacks.
you don’t need high tech , you need passion and sincerity, we look ar premeir Wen,if we can’t do anything else, learn from his eye contact, his body langauge and his speeches.
I taught psychology at U, he gave us an excellent demo, a very powerful medicine by itself.

]]> By: Oversea med Student http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/%e5%8e%bb%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e5%89%8d%e7%b7%9a%e3%80%80%e6%95%91%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e7%81%bd%e6%b0%91/#comment-6096 Oversea med Student Sun, 18 May 2008 16:38:03 +0000 http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/?p=923#comment-6096 我剛剛畢業﹐剛從雲南背囊行回來﹐還未有工作時間多得很﹐很想很想去幫忙﹐可我不是甚麼專科﹐在美國接受的是寵壞了的醫療訓練﹐最好的藥物器材甚麼都不缺﹐到了災區也不知道能幫上甚麼忙﹐也不知道人家會不會嫌我沒經驗“阻住地球轉“。可我已經把我的資料發給msi professional﹐希望能選上我去幫幫忙﹐去挖挖土也好。 我剛剛畢業﹐剛從雲南背囊行回來﹐還未有工作時間多得很﹐很想很想去幫忙﹐可我不是甚麼專科﹐在美國接受的是寵壞了的醫療訓練﹐最好的藥物器材甚麼都不缺﹐到了災區也不知道能幫上甚麼忙﹐也不知道人家會不會嫌我沒經驗“阻住地球轉“。可我已經把我的資料發給msi professional﹐希望能選上我去幫幫忙﹐去挖挖土也好。

]]> By: another doctor http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/2008/05/16/%e5%8e%bb%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e5%89%8d%e7%b7%9a%e3%80%80%e6%95%91%e4%b8%8d%e4%ba%86%e7%81%bd%e6%b0%91/#comment-6089 another doctor Sun, 18 May 2008 05:03:30 +0000 http://doctorfat.wordpress.com/?p=923#comment-6089 doctor fat, I know very well,the annoying politic and interpersonal/department 'fight', ( what QM has shown us is just examplary of the dark side....) being in HA since 1986 (DH it was at that time.) The bit on the politics taht wash out all the 'passions' are very true. And that is why it makes whoever that persevere in the public or that cares about the majority more 'heroic'that the one in Sanitarian. Numerous colleagues have some 'spirit 'to help, but somehow, they drifted to work for the rich one in Stubbs road, the same reason were give, that they eigther wanted to have better care for his patient, or they would like to study the bible and spend more time with the family. We all know in the private we work 12 horus a day, hardly sees the family .... I hope your passion remains and the fire will keep burning, as we need good doctors when we/I get old.... doctor fat,
I know very well,the annoying politic and interpersonal/department ‘fight’, ( what QM has shown us is just examplary of the dark side….) being in HA since 1986 (DH it was at that time.)
The bit on the politics taht wash out all the ‘passions’ are very true.
And that is why it makes whoever that persevere in the public or that cares about the majority more ‘heroic’that the one in Sanitarian.
Numerous colleagues have some ’spirit ‘to help, but somehow, they drifted to work for the rich one in Stubbs road, the same reason were give, that they eigther wanted to have better care for his patient, or they would like to study the bible and spend more time with the family.
We all know in the private we work 12 horus a day, hardly sees the family ….

I hope your passion remains and the fire will keep burning, as we need good doctors when we/I get old….

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